“Once more unto the the breach, dear friends” hahahahaha…..good exchange folks, I have enjoyed it tremendously. We are a group with ideas and opinions, no debate there. It looks like we may agree on some aspects, and vary on others. I don’t know that there is a right answer here, or if anybody was indeed looking for one….but is maybe more a sharing of perspectives and experiences, again I enjoyed it. 
thanks again all for your posts…..
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