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I believe Dr Jain has mentioned that the generic version is NOT equivalent to the real deal with this med. I believe there is a campaign underway to get the generic de-approved or something.

Was your son on the real deal before?

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Kelly- Are you talking Costco Canada? Any idea how much a 1 month supply of Strattera is through them?

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http://www.cadac.ca and http://www.caddra.ca

are both good ADD resources, especially for physicians.

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Good news for me is Eli Lilly recently release 80mg and 100mg versions — previously, they stopped at 60 so if you needed a 100mg dose you would have needed to fill TWO prescriptions @ $175/month EACH. ouch.

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Jen-

Do you find you now get out of bed in the morning with a “bounce” in your step you didn’t have before? That was one of the first benefits I noticed while trying Strattera the first time. I’d wake up and couldn’t WAIT to get to work.

I’m starting to feel that again, but in a way it kind of sucks. I’d LIKE to start my day with a workout and breakfast, but instead end up throwing on my track pants and heading right down the hall into my office to get at the mountain of work and past-due files I have on my plate. Of course, I guess there’s always the argument that is what I should be doing anyway- lol.

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call me crazy-

18mg would just be a very low starting dose for Strattera. It is very possible you would see no effect at all on that dose. Adolescent and adult starting dose reccomended by the manufacturer is 40mg/day. In Dr Jain’s lecture series he explained the optimal effect with Strattera is seen at 1.1mg/kg which would mean about 80mg/day for you, I believe. It could be your doc started you on a low dose to try and ease it’s side effects. Has he talked about bumping your doseage?

I was started at 25mg (second time around on the med after evaluating a half dozen or so different ADD meds) as I was pretty sensitive to side effects when I was on it before. My schedule was to be 25 mg 2-3 weeks, 40 mg for 2-3 weeks, 65 mg for 2-3 weeks and then -depending on side effects and results- looking at 80mg and higher dosages. At my weight ,110mg/day calculates out as “optimal”.

Also, Jeneticallymodified makes an EXCELLENT point. Sometimes we are not the best people to judge a medication’s effectiveness. Talk to those closest to you (parents, significant other, best friend, co-workers) and see what their thoughts are. There may have been some very subtle changes you were not aware of. Even though the manufacturer states it typically takes 1-4 weeks to see results from Strattera, the first time I was on it I myself noticed significant improvement after only 2 or 3 days. Of course meds work differently on everyone so your mileage may vary

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jeneticallymodified-

That was the single best post I have ever read here, and the best I remember coming across in any forum for -well- maybe ever.

Poignant, well structured, factual, and relatable to people on both “sides” of the issue. And written at midnight, yet! (lol – I can relate – I do some of my best work at that hour as I suspect most ADDers do)

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Jen- May I ask what dosage you are currently at with Strattera? And do you take it once daily or twice? Any side effects?

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Hmmm…….that’s not good.

I will say last time I was on Strattera I’d bounce out of bed every morning ready to do business. Haven’t felt that “urge” yet this time

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Well– I have to say that the pot smoking club of montreal isn’t exactly what you’d call a scientific, medical (or even credible) authority on this issue.

My favourite part is when he listed smoking pot as a cure for Drug addiction. Now that right there is funny!

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wow.

According to cart, it sounds like getting high is going to be the cure to all life’s illnesses!!

And for the record I never said (or believed) you were “a totally ignorant nobody” — I simply said that having your head in a cloud of blue smoke all the time has affected your thinking.

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Hey Jen-

Thanks for sharing your story. The totallyadd.com WEBsite has LOTS of videos that I found helpful, both in learning about ADD, treatments, and dealing with it. Also the documentary “add and loving it” that has been shown on Global TV and now replaying on U.S. PBS stations is a good watch if you haven’t seen it.

If your doctor has diagnosed you as specifically as a “combined subtype” I would say they have some real in-depth knowledge of ADD as that is relatively recent terminology. Have you been able to follow up with them on how your treatment is progressing? They should be able to help determine if your meds are working well for you and may be able to introduce you to some support networks too.

In his lecture series Dr Jain did stress that finding the right job and right spouse are key ingredients for an ADDer to have a happy life. I wonder if there are career counselling services out there that can help us identify jobs we are interested in and would be good at?

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KevinSA-

Your comments about “coming down hard” — which medication are they related to? Are you taking about Conerta? or another specific medication?

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“A very important warning relating to the subject of those third party agencies which have been mentioned in a couple of threads.”

To play devil’s advocate here, distilling the article down to it’s most basic elements she paid $10,037 to get $38,237 (or $28,200 net) that she had no knowledge she was entitled to, with a program she didn’t even know existed. Most people would call that “found money” and move on.

I mean, if she had never seen that company’s ad — she would have $28,200 less in her bank account — is that somehow better for her?

My comments below are not related to, or an endorsement of, the specific company or transaction referred to in your article. For the record, I have no affiliation with them and have never even heard of them before.

As a tax accountant (who was formerly an auditor with Revenue Canada) I can tell you -especially with an issue like the disability tax credit- tax issues are often a case of getting one kick at the can. If you’re turned down, that is essentially it. You simply cannot un-do what has been submitted in writing. SO- when you retain a professional for something like this, in part what you are paying for is their EXPERIENCE and EXPERTISE to ensure your ONLY kick at the can is the best you can do.

A professional will ensure the position you are taking is defendable, and makes the best possible argument in support of your claim while being factually accurate. They will also champion your issue as an advocate, getting personally involved as required to make sure the process doesn’t get derailed.

I cannot speak for others, but I know what my expertise and experience has enabled me to achieve for my clients over the years. On audit and appeal files my understanding the system, knowing how to talk to Revenue’s personnel, and my ability to negotiate has saved clients hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars.

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Thanks for the info on Trazadone, Rainbow – keep us posted how things are going for you

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