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I think what hgappens is that after yoiu take the meds and yoiu start to feel better and productive – yoiu thk you are “fixed” – cured. the medication just treats the symptyoms and the underlying problems and concerns are still there. So the meds are great but are not a magiic bullet and we have to find supplemental ways to deal with the diagnosis. I’m still working on the supplental ways – but excecise and eating right seem to help a lot.

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I have had similar thoughts – I take a low dose of Adderal. My biggest concern is that bit elveates my B P – I tried welbutrin inconjunction with adderal and the results were not good.

My current startegy is to take adderal every other day to limit the exposure and B P risk and basically I don’t usually take it on the weekend.On the alternate days I usally supplemnt with a couple of cups of coffee during the day for stimulation. I find that if I am off it for 2 or 3 days I start to have symoytoms reoccur and I start up again.

I know adderal is different than welbutrin or straterra, so not sure if that is somthjing that would work in conjunction with your doctios advice

I would take the med every day accept for the B P concern and adderal is more topical than other meds as it leaves your system after several hours. But having taken it for a while some times I feel so functional that I convince myself, maybe I don’t mneed it – but after a couple of daysd I realize I do.

I would love to find an alternative – like meditaion or diet to control symptoms biut until then it looks like the meds.

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Hang in there Clive. There are alot of peole here that have gone through similar circumstances I’m sure.

I kniw I have recived very good support from members and a different perspective or fresh perspective can often be the lynch pin that helps you break through. Feel free to share iof you want to,

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I currently take 10 mill of adderalonce daily – sometimes every other day and it works great. My only concern is that it tends to elevate my blood pressure – I am 45 male – > I was considering alternatives thnat woulkd work that don’t have adverse effects on B P. I treid welbutrin ata low dose for 10 days and it did not work wel – made me feel nervous, anxiius, foggy, jumpy and agressive.

My doctor suggested stratera – but honestly – being AD and impatient – I don’t kniw if I want to suffer through side effects for a couple of months to see if it works – as I have something that works great – Adderal- but am just concerned about B P.

Any general suggestions – should I stick with what works – Adderal – even though I have B P concerns – or try Stratera?

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Hi Mungo thanks for the post. I am currently on 10 mill of adderal xr and it really helps with my symptoms. My concern is that it elevates my blodd pressure. I tried a combo of Wellbutrin and Adderal – but the wellbutrin really made me foggey and nervpus and on edge. I’m just wondering how long it took for STratera to kick in -p it sounds like you have to take it for a fairly long time before you know if it is working, thanks

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Hi Epicurien – I know it sounds cliche but people to really like to talk about themselves and what they are inersted in. I went to a party the other night and m y wife an I had a little argument before about ME not be as helpful and attentive as I could be – essentially that I can be sometimes self absorbed – whether consciuosly or unconsciously. She sited the last time we were at a gathering she was the one that went home eraly to releive the babysitter and I got to stay and she was right – and I started to realize that the world does not revolve around me and the what I percieve people may think of me really is just nonsense and self talk that is noit productive.

Any way I think sometimes with ADD we subconsciously think that everything is about US and that can make one hypersensitive to what we perceive others think about us. I tend to subconsciously pych myself up in social situations and feel like I have to overcompensate by trying to be funny, outgoing – or trying to link conversatioins to personal anecdotes or stories often about me. This can come of as boorish and self absorbed – and can also be forced and unnatural.

ANy way at the party I decided that I was going to be a lot more laid back. I talked to people and asked them how things were going for them and revolved the conversation around them. I really tried in a subtle but sincere way to let others take the lead and after all most of the time it is just small talk… it is not a big deal or the end of the world conversations.

The result was I was really relaxed and comfortable rather than anxious and insecure and I had a great time and told my wife I would be the one to releive the baby sitter – to serve not to be served.

Sometimes we can make a big of what we think others think about us – the truth is – most people are a little self absorbed and they really aren’t thinking about you or me or someone else -they thinking mostly about of their environment is effecting them.

The moral – lighten up and show genuine – even if it is only socialy superficial -interest in others and social interactions will take on a more natural flow. Take care

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Good advice thanks very much

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Does anyone get restless at night?

I do o k during the day controlling symptoms and take a low dose of adderl xr – but from dinner time to bed time I get really restless and my mind races.

This often leads to poor food and sometimes alcohol choices in the evening. I think I self medicate with food that is not to good for me or alcohol to mellow me out once the adderal has run down. Neither happens every night – but i could undo a day of watching my diet and excecise it the 3 or 4 hours between dinner and bed time.

When I am super aware of my hutrition during the day time, I am less likely to wander, but stress, work, kids obligations can mount.

Anyone experince anything similar or have words of wisdom?

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… my intention was not to suggest ALCAT as an altrnative to medication or other treatment. I do not and would not suggest anyone stop their current treatment or med – including myself – I am taking adderal XR.

I can not compete with yopur apparent knowledge on the subject, with along with Walt’s is impressive – again I was simply realying my own personal experience.

I excercise 3 to 5 days a week – I imagine it does some good. I seem to do fine during the day – but in the evening is where I get into trouble with poor decisons about food – and alcohol and the nutrition program really heloed me to control cravings for both – again by accident or on purpose – I don’t know. The evening between 7:00 and 11:00 for me is the danger zone and I could potentially undo an entire day of being ‘good”

I am also newly diagnosed over the last six months and it is tough to wrap my head around the proper med etc – and I will continue to research alternatives other bthan medication – although I have no plans to stop my medication.

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… removing something like yeast, sugar or wheat from your diet for six months and then roatating it back in has cost people their lives? Wow, I must have missed that headline. I better start drinking coffee again to reset my system.

I didn’t say abandon your medication or other treatment, I simply said I had outsanding results with this nutritional approach. I guess everyone is selling something.

Legitimate medical advice is to buy prescription medication and that’s it. It could be possible that nutrition and food intolerances combined with other treatment?

If somone had complete symptom refelief from neuro feedback. Would you tell them to stop because the majority of studies say it doesn’t work?

“Hey, I know you feel a lot better and this was successful for you, but don’t you know it doiesn’t work?” – oh I thought I was feeling better but I guess I should stop if you say so. I’ll just get back in the bucket with all the other crabs.

No need to respond, unless you want to. We obviously don’t agree. I’m not saying to anyone drop what you are doing. I am just passing along info on something that worked for me. Maybe it worked by accident, maybe it worked on purpose, but i worked.

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I guess its possible – it is also possible that there is something to it.

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As my last post indicated I only have been treated by the traditional medical system and traditional doctors for my entire life.

I have no link to complemnetay/alternative medicine and have never been treated for any condition in that manner.

That is a tragic thing what happened to your friend. And I can relate to trying a medication that had adverse effects as well.

I am at the front end oif the curve here trying to deal with the ADD – diagnosis – technically they told me that is what they thunk it is, so I don’t know what if any other conditions are attached to it. I have periods of being down but I don’t knoiw enough tyo say I would call it depression that is a tough row to to hoe.

Having never been on any kind of medication previously, I am concerned about long term side effects and am looking for alternatives to a life of medication.

I think testing for food intolerances and adjusting diet is fairly inocuous in the larger scheme of things when you comoare it to the sid effects of medication.

Best of luck with your journey

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Over all I am pretty healthy and have only utilized traditional medical doctors and treatment here in the U S for annual examines and regular medcial ailmnets and normal medical RX for antibiotics etc.

Accept for recent diagnosis at age 45 of ADD and recnt RX for Adderal XR – I have never taken any medication, had a surgery or spent a night in the hospital, thanks to God.

and oh, you did not fully answer my question – I am assuming “None what so ever.” – was referrring to the fact you had no connections with traditional medcial or Pharma –

What about my question: “Out of curiousity have you found ANY alternative treatments that you have personally tried that have been successful? Have yoiu actually tried any alternative treatments to see how they effect you in your real life?…

If not why not? If so, what worked.

Lastly, assuming traditional medicine is working well for you, why are you interested in pursuing alternatives.

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Worked for me amazingly well, beyond all expectations. One of the best decisons I ever made.

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I have never been treated by a homeopath for any medical condition. This nutrionist happens to have a dilpoma as a homeoptah and is on her way to a traditionlal PHD in nutrition – look I don’t care if you think it works or not. I had a posituve experience and I am sharing that, others can decide if they might benefit or not based on your input, mny input and there own sense of how they work.

My initial thread was to start a conversation on an alternative that benefited me personally, not to pick a fight. May be this alternative rings true with someone and they would like to try it, maybe it might even help them signifcantly – but your arrogance to flat out discredit it, when you have no personal experience with it – is well arrogant.

I can undertsand someones apprehension about trying an alternative as I have them myself — and for someone to say “I have heard mixed things or negative things about this alternative – or approach with cautiion and her is why.” – but to call it an outright scam and a fraud with out any personal or physcial knowledge of it is – well is arrogant and closed minded. Is it possible that you don’t actually know everything there is to know about everything?

I do have an open mind and like the idea that health care professionals examine all alternative options, including homepathic and nutritional options – wasn’t your original conversation about alternatives?

So if you look it up on line and see a peer review it is now all of a sudden true? Everyone has their patch of real estate they want to protect. I’m sure the medical and pharmaceutical community are stampeding to do unbiased studies about how nutrition may be able to do what medication does.

I’m sure those peer studies on Prozac and the other horor stories you hear about anti- depressants screwing people up permanently

really make those people feel better. After all the RX “Independent” company study says it is good for you, so sign on.

It worked for me and esentially everyone else I know who followed the nutritional advice – and you say it didn’t work. I just don’t know how you can support that – because you don’t know whether it worked or not. Is that anecdotal? Who cares? I feel great when I apply it and all is right with the world. Call it what you like, you just seem incredibly closed minded. Maybe it does work for a ceratin part of the population or even the majority of the population if there was a main stream “peer study” . Most MD no very little about nutritin and the effects on health – they still use the governtment food pyramid for ctying out loud.

So far the only traditional medical teatment I have received for ADD was a questionnaire and a littany of medication to try, by trial and error. Nothing about increasing excercise, changing diet, mediation, mental excercises – just “Here try this pill and see me in a month.”

Out of curiousity have you found ANY alternative treatments that you have personally tried that have been successful? Have yoiu actually tried any alternative treatments to see how they effect you in your real life?… or do you prefer to rely on studies to draw that conclusion for you.

I have no link to ALCAT or homeopathy – what is your relationship to the traditional medical and pharmaceutical community.

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