[Robbo]

Wow!

Thanks no_dopamine, you put a lot of work and your own experience out here for us. It’s great reading everyone’s reminders of stuff I’ve forgotten from the past, and plenty of new information. This is a valuable thread I can come back to. And also copy n print out for personal use. I know my memory will get better over time. But while I’m on the way to that goal it’s good to have this information written down, so easy for me to understand. Your writing serves us all very well no_dopamine. And a lot of you guys/gals.

I’m reminded of some simple yet profound advice I’ve given at times in my life when I was very spiritually healthy and doing well. Meditating about 20 minutes a couple times a day. I used to just say “the best way to learn how to meditate is to meditate” It’s very important to have the basic framework to begin with, that you guys have talked about. I like to remind people this is definitely no sprint, not even a brisk walk. But a long sometimes difficult hike. A journey. Very rewarding. The busy mind profits the most from meditation. Maybe that’s because it’s so much work for a busy mind, and can take tons and tons of being patient with yourself. Extra work rewards the meditator extra fine results. I can’t think of many really rewarding things in my life that were really easy to get. I’ve spent hours and hours on a mountain bike, or motorcycle completely in the now, taking in everything my senses were experiencing. One more way to employ the ideas and philosophy of meditation.

Then I would hit a bumble bee going about 50 or 60 mph, get a fat lip n loose my ability to meditate for a while. Those things happen…

It’s okay if a person decides this is not something they can make work for them. We have so many different tools to choose from right?, there’s a bolt for every nut, and we sure are a bunch of nutty folks huh? hehe. It’s good n fun when we find a way to enjoy the kind of nut we are. I hereby give myself permission to be a goofie nut :o) I’ll go meditate on that for a while.

Gratefully yours

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Heck I’m just happy to get a little attention…

Had a great night tonight, almost talked too much but didn’t. Will miracles ever cease?

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Why are you throwing rocks at my take? just joken hehe.

thanks.

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This is a great thread!, I’m glad I finally found it again. (clicking on favorites before I forget)

I almost posted this on the wrong thread.

My most valued tool for coping with just about any part of life is meditation. With me it’s Prayer n meditation. I’ve read this article a couple times through but I’m having a hard time fully digesting what it says. I’m hoping some other folks from this camp who have better reading comprehension might read it also and give explaining it in more simple terms a try. It’s really scientific. The small amount of Ritalin I have been taking is actually helping more than I realized. For once I’m not questioning how or why it works, I don’t have that urgent desire to satisfy my curiosity. The best thing is how I function in social situations.

It’s not just the Ritalin, it’s more meditation more Consistently, doing more reading than writing here, and lot’s of the rest of coping mechanisms I’ve discovered along the path I’ve chosen that fortunately brought me here.

Here’s the Meditation article. http://psyphz.psych.wisc.edu/web/pubs/2008/buddha_brain_IEEE.pdf It’s a pdf that I didn’t actually have to download, it’s just a web page. I’m not sure why it says pdf at the end. Weird?

Please check it out if any of you guys want to help me get a better understanding of what it says. I’m very sure meditation is very much a Large part of the solution to my ADHD in particular. I think this article does a great job of more effectively saying how it helps us.

I’m becoming less worried about building up a tolerance of the ritalin. That’s huge for me. I’m not happy with taking medication but much much closer to real full acceptance. Partly because with this post in particular I didn’t have to do much editing/proofreading at all. I didn’t even copy n paste it into a word processor! LOL, after writing that, I copy n pasted it into a word processor just in case!. It’s easier to edit/proofread when it’s in much larger print for some reason. A long time ago when I was on the wrong medz, I used to have to print stuff out in order to successfully edit/proofread. Anywayz, didn’t find any mistakes! I like to use a z instead of an s a lot. So that’s not a mistake.

I could keep writing. on and on…. zzzzzzz got ta get stuff done.

Later taters.

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[Robbo]

I’m not sure if I even have a problem with fight or flight. I’m having a hard time understanding the connection. Maybe when I check out the site I’ll see what you mean.

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<<>I’ve waited a long time to say anything, not that I have anything profound or useful to say.><<

Thanks no dopamine, well said, all of what you said. I’m grateful this place is here too. If I could just learn to speed read I would enjoy it and recover from/live with my flavor of ADHD.

Love n peace to ya all team.

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Wow, I so wish I could just read faster. I liked this tons

<>>”Rather than trying to find a life that you enjoy, you should try and find enjoyment in your life.”<<

krazykat – love ya. You are too cool.>>< That’s Great! I like it too.

The way I’ve found to find enjoyment in my life is to give whatever it is I’m doing, the thing right in front of me, all my attention, interest, and love. That’s work, but work that pays off in the feeling of success. I define success as feeling comfortable in my own skin. I live on a very tiny amount of money compared to what’s considered middle class. I do fairly well at not comparing my life to others, I’m sure that makes a huge difference in my ability to be content. I know how much is enough, and how much is too much of any given thing. It’s tricky especially if we’re talking about cookies or ice cream! Money is over rated. Way.

I have a 3500.00 car n think it’s great!, it’s enough for me.

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[Robbo]

I just online to check mail real quick, stop by here and then get back to getting my home stuff like laundry etc. done. Yeah right! hehe.

I never finished an article about meditation yesterday, so I finished that, Difficult scientific research data. I wanted to ask for some helping understanding that… I’ll do that later.

Instead I clicked on the “Define Crazy” search I ran on this site last time I tried to find that great piece of writing by our own Rick Green. I gotta laugh at the way that remote keeps changing the channel on me (my choices of what to do next, you know). This thread came up as one of the results to my search for Ricks Define Crazy article.

Here’s a cool story about my daughter and I from about 20 years ago roughly. I was making some spaghetti sauce. My daughter was standing on a milk crate, helping me, she was only about 4. I let her shake some of each of the spices into the sauce, stir a while, wait, relax, n then give it a taste to decide which herbs n spices to add. It was just a peaceful evening, nice n quiet and I felt like I was doing a good job building a foundation for her to enjoy cooking as much as I did.

She looked at me and just said “you’re nice” that’s it, that’s all she said. hehe. I felt like I melted into a puddle of happiness seeing the look of sincerity in here little eyes. For about a half an hour I was the King of the World! hehe. Then I went back to being a Dad. A happy one.

Cool, huh?

PS, I just remembered! that article is in the Blog section. Rats!, I checked and it’s not there… I’ll find it sometime. At least I was smart enough to copy n paste one for myself.

K datzit.

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I get nutrition tips emailed to me from Dr. Andrew Weil here’s a link http://www.drweil.com/ I’m very sure how healthy we eat makes a difference, It may have been Dr Jain from here who said something about eating protein when we first get up. Check out his videos. All the videos are great, the price ROCKS! (they’re free) Obviously eating junk food and too much sugar n salt can mess with our health. I have to be very careful with caffeine.

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I realize this is an older thread, but this topic has definitely been a problem for me. So why start yet another thread in such a huge difficult to not get lost in web site?. Especially the last couple days, I’ve been searching without success to find a thread I wanted to post on. I wrote a reply to it in a word processor and when I copy’d n wanted to paste it to the thread, it didn’t work. Tried again, didn’t work. I had left the computer on at that thread the day before because I, well… I’m impulsive! and just rolled away to do the other thing whatever it was lol. It was the next day before I got back to the computer.

I’ve been pondering a lot on how to find older threads I’ve read but forgot to click favorites on, posted on, etc., or saved in any other way. It dawned on me while watching a great movie a few minutes ago.

Anyway, I use Safari, the mac browser. You can get it for windows. It has an excellent history I can use to backtrack and to find a topic that I lost here. All browsers have a history you can search back through, I’ve used a bunch, but I like Safari best for now. Fortunately today I recognised the title of the thread and was able to post the reply I worked over an hour on.

Navigating this or any other site like this is an excellent way to improve our memory. It is possible to improve our memory. Read about Neuroplasticity, that’s an important part of my own recovery from life in general.

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I’m just posting this for anyone who has a similar problem as the original person that started the topic/thread.

This whole thread sounds like the perfect combination of tools, treatment ideas, and good perspectives. The only thing I can add is to be extremely critical about what “mechanic” works on the engine, getting the right locksmith (psychiatrist) to help you unlock that key from the inside (medz is the key) so then a mechanic (therapist) and or possibly both a psychologist and therapist can work together. Be sure all you team of doctors are in sync with each-other. Keep as much copies of the medical documentation and records as you can. Doctors come n go, they move. These records are your property and you have a right to a record of all the work being done on you (for today, you’re a car, hehe) An ADHD coach sounds like one of the key players on the team of professionals that you may need. Watch the ADD coach video on this site, it’s good. Think of yourself like a Nascar car. They don’t have one mechanic do they? it’s a huge team in the pits. {how funny, you have go be in the “pits” to get worked on! lol} and the driver has to be very much involved with every single one of the mechanics. Right down to the guy who chooses the rubber and changes the tires. (this might be your athletic trainer, or just someone helping you at the gym, exercise definitely will help).

The part about the resident sounds like a red flag for me. With this problem (ADHD) you probably need a seasoned professional. A team of them…

I bring tons of experience with doctors of all kinds to this table. My spinal cord injury is just as complex as ADHD, I’ve tamed that dragon, mostly. Not on my own for sure. One thing I can tell you is this. Residents are DANGEROUS!!! I can only draw from my experience. That’s the experience of a 31 year old mad man who dealt with undiagnosed ADHD, had real depression too. So the ADHD was helped a little with antidepressants. The depression is not really much of the problem any more, because I take the right medz for that. A lot of therapy in addition has sort of kept my car on the road so to speak, but never at my full potential, ever. Then I got hit by a truck and all bets were off for a while, I didn’t deal with it very well. Not being able to sit still is a little bit harder in a wheelchair! lol. Probably about 7 or 8 years ago I started working much harder at getting my life in order, or maybe I just started finally getting better help. Getting spiritually healthy, to me that’s the key to becoming mentally healthy. But the car (me, I know you get that. just want to be clear) still is not running at it’s full potential… Slowly, gradually changing dosages has been a long difficult path. Now I’ve just got to be patient while we find the right dosage for the ADHD. I may need some therapy or an ADHD coach after that. We shall see. It’s the same with you. In the meantime, take advantage of the tools here. If you haven’t seen the documentary ADD and loving it. that’s a good place to start, watch the videos here, read… read a lot! because this is a complex thing we have. We are a little bit like Nascar cars, not a bunch of cookie cutter ford f-150’s. I haven’t met many people in the world that are “all the same”. it’s especially true with us. Nascar car doesn’t mean better than other cars, just different, much more complex. Difficult to keep tuned.

This page is kind-of a team of people recovering from adhd, helping you choose your professional team. Plus one true professional on this page with us. I hope this was encouraging Bibliophile, if you actually do read it, it’s a month old.

Here’s my main point- It’s really throwing the dice letting a resident of any kind help you with something like adhd, IMHO. That’s more risk than even I would be willing to take, if I had any choice in the matter. I do still have that adrenaline junkie DNA in me. I’m pretty sure I’ve tamed that dragon as well.

Choose your team of ADHD pro’s wisely, I can’t imagine just one doctor helping you with all this. I couldn’t possibly count all the different kind of health care pro’s I’ve had to fight like crazy to make it on time to see. I should look at getting to places on time like a sport! I just thought of that… hmmm. I gotta remember that!

It sure ain’t boring having ADHD huh? lol. Good luck.

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LOL! that was great zsazsa! I hope you don’t poke yer eyes out, you won’t be able to write funny stuff to read. Thanks for making me laugh

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What an awesome page! I wish I had time to finish reading it. Got nothing to contribute (almost said add). Just wanna say thanks. At least I remembered to mark it as a favorite. I found this page looking for a page I lost… oh well.

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Thanks bill, I was writing the above reply when you were writing the one above it that I just read. I needed to be reminded all that stuff you said. In fact you talked about most of the fears that have been causing my stress. I too have a tendency to build up a tolerance to medications. I’ve already noticed the 5 mg of Ritalin not quite working as much already only after one month!

I thave a good organized set of folders with lot’s of medical records. And I too keep myself educated about my own health care, I’m still alive because of nutrition studies and research, n lot’s of books I’ve got about food as medicine. When I move to Utah where the health care is rumored to be much better, I’ll have a good big stack of medical records to get the new army of doctors informed about my complicated cornucopia of health care issues. The spinal cord injury really baffles even spinal cord injury specialists. There’s real data out there about people with disabilities, and ADHD that do turn to substance abuse. So I have to be honest and give my GP doc some credit for being prudent and actually protective towards me even though my child like thinking (not childish!) doesn’t want to see him as a wise n prudent doctor. Authority and me have had some real disastrous communications problems and plain old human error. I’m sure a good 4 or 5% emergency room doctors especially are high functioning ADDer’s. General practice might be the next best adrenaline junkie/never boring choice for doctors.

My daughter is almost done with her Internship and will be starting her career as a dietician very soon. When she gets settled that’s when I hope to make my trek east, to one of the more beautiful states I know of. Utah has 5 awesome national parks. I’ve survived a lot of the spinal cord injury complications by eating very healthy, protein shakes, whole food, raw green vegetables, fresh juice from my trusty juiceman Jr. and the right combinations of supplements when I had pressure sores that normally kill people with spinal cord injuries. Most people with SCI die from infection due to pressure sores, kidney failure, and of course plain old apathy!, possibly the biggest Killer of all. I wonder how many ADHDer’s let apathy slowly defeat them and end up drunks and drug addicts because they destroy one too many successful businesses. Ever wonder why so many skid row bums are still in their last 1200 dollar suit when they hit skid row?

I love that Neil Young song that Pearl Jam does, it’s called “why do I keep Fu*&in up” hehe. Maybe he’s got this thing we struggle with too.

I give credit to God most of all, and the prayers of people with more faith than myself, people from my church praying for me most of all. That faith gave me the strength to put away the 120 grams of protein a day plus enough “roughage” to be able to digest it all.

Anywayz, thanks for watchen my back some more, have a great day.

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